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10th Apr 2025

[Re-air] Starting Messy, Building Confidence, and Finding Your Creative Voice with Bob Baker

What if success as a creative wasn’t about being the best—but just showing up, experimenting, and giving yourself permission to start messy?

Bob Baker didn’t start out with a perfect plan or a polished resume. He was a former musician and “non-traditional” marketer who slowly found his groove by helping creatives find confidence, consistency, and clarity—without needing to go viral or wait for permission.

This episode originally aired on Cracking Creativity back in 2017, but the wisdom still hits today. Especially if you're feeling behind, overwhelmed, or unsure how your creativity fits into your life (or business) right now.

From Self-Doubt to Self-Published

Bob didn’t wait to feel ready—he just got started. One book turned into several. One small action led to a creative career helping artists, writers, and performers believe in their work and get it out into the world.

“You don’t have to wait for someone to choose you. You can choose yourself.”

This convo is a reminder that you don’t need a giant audience or fancy credentials. You just need to care enough to keep showing up—and to share what you’re learning along the way.

Try this: Think of one tiny project you’ve been putting off. Could you take one step toward it today?

Bonus idea: What’s one way you could “choose yourself” this week—without waiting for anyone else’s permission?


The Real Talk Behind Building a Creative Career

There’s no one path. Bob talks about how he followed curiosity, stayed consistent, and built a sustainable creative business that’s helped thousands of artists over the years.

“I didn’t feel qualified at all. But I kept doing it anyway.”

We talk about fear, procrastination, and why so many creatives get stuck in their heads instead of sharing their work. Bob doesn’t sugarcoat it—but he does make it feel doable.

Try this: Instead of waiting to feel ready, try doing something before you feel ready.

Bonus idea: Write a list of 3 things you have done creatively. Let that momentum fuel your next step.


How to Stay Consistent Without Burning Out

Spoiler: it’s not about grinding harder. It’s about making your creative practice feel like a natural, enjoyable part of your life—not a chore.

“It’s okay to start small and imperfect. The key is to keep going.”

Bob shares how he approaches writing, marketing, and showing up online in a way that feels aligned—not exhausting. Perfect if you’ve been spinning your wheels or stuck in perfectionism mode.

Try this: Set a 10-minute timer and do something creative—without pressure, expectations, or goals.

Bonus idea: Let yourself be a beginner again. Pick something you’ve never tried and just play.


Quick Recap

  • You don’t need to be an expert to get started.
  • Sharing your creativity can open unexpected doors.
  • Small steps lead to big changes—especially when you stay consistent.
  • Permission doesn’t come from outside. It comes from you.


Ready to Start Messy and Make Progress Anyway?

Bob’s story is proof that you don’t have to have it all figured out. Just take the next small step.

If you're ready to stop overthinking and start sharing your creative work with more ease, let’s talk.

Book a free strategy session at TheStandoutCreatives.com

Spots are limited—grab yours while they’re open.

Let’s get you moving again.

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About the Podcast

Standout Creatives: Business, marketing, and creativity tips for solopreneurs launching their ideas
Actionable tips and stories to help your creative business thrive and stand out.
Feel stuck in the endless juggle of running a creative business? I'm Kevin Chung, your creative business host, and this podcast is your guide to thriving without losing your spark.

This podcast is for you if you find yourself asking questions like:
- Are you juggling creative work and the demands of running a business?
- Do you feel overwhelmed by launching a product or course?
- Struggling to find a marketing strategy that feels authentic to you?
- Looking for ways to grow without burning out?
- Wondering how to balance business success with your creative passion?

Each episode dives into practical strategies, inspiring stories, and actionable tips from fellow creative business owners—whether you’re prepping for a big launch, scaling your business, or simply trying to sell with integrity. Learn how to stand out, grow with intention, and build a business that feels as good as it looks.

(Formerly known as Cracking Creativity Podcast)

About your host

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Kevin Chung

Meet Your Host & Creative Guide

Hi, I'm Kevin Chung. With over 15 years of experience in web design, digital marketing, and email marketing, I’m passionate about helping creatives like you build standout businesses while staying true to your artistic vision.

If you need someone to help you implement these strategies in a way that resonates with your specific journey, let’s chat one-on-one!

Here's how I can help make your business stand out:

- Pinpoint your challenges: We'll identify the key areas that are slowing you down or causing overwhelm.

- Tailored action plan: Walk away with a personalized plan that fits your business and creative goals.

- Real, actionable advice: No pressure—just straightforward, practical guidance you can start using right away.

Visit thestandoutcreatives.com to book a call.