Come Join Us at the Book Summit with Marc Cordon
What if the story you’ve been holding onto is the one someone else has been waiting to hear?
Marc Cordon and I had a great conversation about the upcoming Book Summit. It will be a creative space built for writers, not-yet-writers, and anyone who feels a tug to put their story into the world. If you’ve ever felt like your experiences aren’t “big enough,” or you’re nervous about sharing something personal, this conversation might shift something for you.
We talk about why storytelling is such a powerful form of liberation, how writing in community can dissolve fear, and why personal stories, especially the ones about transition, liminality, and rebirth, resonate universally.
We also dig into the anthology we’re creating together, the therapeutic nature of writing, and the collaborative energy that makes this summit feel different from anything else.
This episode is an invitation to stop waiting for permission and start exploring the story that’s already living inside you.
If you are interested in coming to the Book Summit. It is this Saturday December 13th at 1pm ET. You can read all about it here.
Highlights
Stories are a form of freedom
Writing isn’t just an art. It’s a way to reclaim your voice.
“Books, storytelling… that’s the new form of freedom and liberation.”
Everyone is a storyteller (even if you don’t believe it yet)
You don’t need a title to begin. You only need curiosity.
“Everybody is a writer and a storyteller.”
Community makes your writing stronger
When you share in a circle, something shifts in you and in the people listening.
“The fact that we can all hear and experience these stories together is what really makes it powerful.”
Feedback forms connection
When people lean in to your story, you can feel it.
“It’s really cool to see people at the edge of their seats leaning forward when it comes to you and your story.”
Specific stories create universal resonance
The more personal you get, the more people see themselves in your words.
“The more specific you are… the more people will say, I see myself in your story.”
Creation is a transformation
Something magical happens when you start with nothing and end with something only you could have made.
“There’s an ebullience that happens when you leave with something you created.”
Closing Reflection
If you’ve been telling yourself you’re not a writer… consider this your gentle interruption.
You don’t need a polished story.
You don’t need a plan.
You just need a spark.
And if you’re feeling that nudge, the Book Summit and the Story Circle are the places to explore it. These spaces are designed to help you uncover your voice, shape your story, and feel supported every step of the way.
If you’re curious about writing a book someday… come.
If you want to share a personal story but don’t know where to start… come.
If you want community, feedback, and a little creative courage… come.
You don’t have to do this alone.
Let’s see what unfolds when you step into a room where your story is already welcome.
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Transcript
Hey, everyone, Quick bonus episode for you all.
Speaker B:And this one is with my good friend and creative partner, Mark Cordone, and.
Speaker A:We'Re hosting our third summit this year.
Speaker B:And this one is all about books.
Speaker A:In this substack live conversation, we talked about storytelling, creativity, and what we have for the summit and beyond.
Speaker A:And if you're available, join us at the Book summit this Saturday, December 13th, at 1pm Eastern Time.
Speaker A:Now, here's the episode.
Speaker B:The reason that we've come on today is to talk about a book summit that is happening this Saturday.
Speaker B:It's a little short notice, but we are having a book summit this Saturday at 1pm Eastern time.
Speaker B:And this is going to be a summit that helps you see the possibilities of a transformative story and being able to turn that story into a book.
Speaker B:And we've done two previous summits before, one on storytelling and one on creativity.
Speaker B:So this is kind of like wrapping up the trilogy in the ultimate.
Speaker B:We're going to make something together.
Speaker C:It is wrapping up the trilogy.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:Because it's one thing to know how to tell a story.
Speaker C:It's another thing how to use creative tools.
Speaker C:It's another thing to put all of those things together in the.
Speaker C:In the binding of a personal story.
Speaker C:Or it's not just a personal story, but like, I truly feel like writing and storytelling, it moves people in a different way, you know, and so what is it like for someone to open your story and they get goosebumps from it?
Speaker C:You know, they open it five years later after you read it, and it's relevant to them and where they are now?
Speaker C:You know, I truly feel like books, storytelling, that's the new form of freedom and liberation.
Speaker C:You know, to know where we were coming from, to know where we're going, and to know that other humans think and tell stories like us.
Speaker B:You know, everything old is new again.
Speaker B:So I think books are the perfect opportunity to really express deeply from like, an instinctual level what you're feeling.
Speaker B:And, uh, the only way to really get out all the stuff that you know is to write it out.
Speaker B:Because otherwise it's all just like rummaging your head, right?
Speaker C:And I think, you know, since we're talking about writing books and working with writers and storytellers, I think that there was.
Speaker C:There might be a misconception there that someone is listening to this or, or watching this right now, and they're saying, I'm not a writer, I'm not a storyteller.
Speaker C:You know, but it couldn't be further from the truth, right I feel like everybody is a writer and a storyteller, and when you write, it lands with a different, I guess, vibration.
Speaker C:That's why you can say something, but then when you put it into music form, suddenly we're experiencing that story.
Speaker C:That video in a different way.
Speaker C:And so I'm so excited about this book summit this Saturday because hopefully everybody who go will realize that they have a voice.
Speaker C:Maybe there's an inner critic in there.
Speaker C:And we're going to work with that inner critic.
Speaker C:And, you know, just when you put pen to paper, just amazing things come out, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And one of the great things about this particular summit that we're going to be doing is the fact that we will have the ability for you to write and get feedback from other people during it.
Speaker B:So one of the best things that I think Mark has done that I've been a part of is the storytelling writing circle.
Speaker B:And can you talk a little bit about that and some of the impact that it's had not only on you, but other people?
Speaker C:Yeah, completely.
Speaker C:You know, I. I don't know if it's just.
Speaker C:Just me, but I'm just going to speak from the eye.
Speaker C:But a lot of times I'll write something and if I put it out too soon and start seeing the critique of it and.
Speaker C:And it was perfect when it was born.
Speaker C:It was whole when it was born.
Speaker C:Then someone goes and says, oh, no, no, you need to change this, this, this, this and this.
Speaker C:Ideas and stories are.
Speaker C:Are incubated, and it takes a little while to get that thing jostled and going.
Speaker C:So when it comes to the story circle, we write, Right?
Speaker C:We write.
Speaker C:And then there's something about.
Speaker C:At the.
Speaker C:When we start asking for feedback, the feedback is what we are allowed.
Speaker C:The group, we're only allowed to talk about what leaps off the page, what they loved about a particular piece, a phrasing, talking about stakes and stuff like that.
Speaker C:And so what I've seen happen is a group of people, and many times they don't know each other at the very beginning.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:They get very close and they begin to trust each other.
Speaker C:And when you trust each other and you get to put out stories where you know it's not going to be criticized, you're not going to have a cortisol rush, you're not going to like, have your inner critic say, don't go.
Speaker C:Go further with this project.
Speaker C:It's a magical thing.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Because I do think ideas incubate for a little bit of time.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:What are you getting out of it?
Speaker B:Man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Not only the benefit to myself as a writer and a creator, but also hearing the stories of other people is also like the secret sauce of the circle, because we can all write in solitude and get feedback individually from different people.
Speaker B:But the fact that can all hear and experience these stories together is what really makes it powerful, because you're getting all of this feedback and it's all positive and you feel better about your writing and you want to continue writing, because if you get negative feedback, you're like, okay, this sucks.
Speaker B:I don't want to write anymore.
Speaker B:So I think the fact that this is a positive experience and we're not directly saying the person's name, so you're separating yourself from the art or the creation.
Speaker B:So you're giving that, you know, objectiveness to it.
Speaker C:Yeah, we completely are doing it.
Speaker C:Then there's other techniques, you know, psychological distancing, stuff like that, that are completely applied to that.
Speaker C:It literally is meant to nurture the story and help it grow up a little bit, you know, And I think that's the great thing about writing.
Speaker C:I think a lot of people think that you go and get that old school typewriter and just write by yourself, and then suddenly something magical has.
Speaker C:This is a process of discovery and creativity, of fun and levity.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And from the storyteller circle, we have.
Speaker C:We've had a lot of different ways that people have engaged.
Speaker C:We have a woman, her name is Pamela, and she took her.
Speaker C:Her story from one of the sessions, and it was like a storytelling jam, I think, and she got in front of a whole bunch of people and told her story.
Speaker C:You know, we have another person, Jesse, who came in and he was all about writing, you know, his TEDX talk.
Speaker C:And that's more than pertinent to write those things in there.
Speaker C:But he realized that there were a lot of things that he experienced growing up and sort of those rites of passages.
Speaker C:And he's writing about that right now.
Speaker C:And it's bonkers, the stuff he's writing about.
Speaker B:It's amazing.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or you, Kevin, being able to capture your relocation to Costa Rica and just have it as an adventure in and of itself has absolutely been fantastic.
Speaker C:And with the feedback, it is the secret sauce.
Speaker C:And if you can spot it, you got it right.
Speaker C:So we see people, you know, like one person talking about, oh, my gosh, there's high stakes in this story.
Speaker C:And then, like the next week, everybody's talking about how high, stale.
Speaker C:Hey, they're using stakes.
Speaker C:They're using all these really cool tools.
Speaker C:And when you Identify it, you learn from it, you know, and you teach other people to where they, where to look for when it comes to things like stakes.
Speaker C:So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And one thing that I did not expect to do coming into this session of writing that just happened, the story circle, was to write fiction.
Speaker B:And this was all because another person that came into March circle, Josh, he started writing his own fiction.
Speaker B:He never wrote written fiction before.
Speaker B:And he's creating these amazing crazy stories in this 15 minute span.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh my gosh, what would it look like if I did that myself?
Speaker B:So I put our hands on a prompt that Mark threw out about the time it all started.
Speaker B:And my wife and I sell these dolls on Etsy, these creepy dolls on Etsy called Grim of the Gala.
Speaker B:And I picked one of the dolls that really jumped out to me in that moment of having received the prompt.
Speaker B:And now this is.
Speaker B:I looked it up last night and it's over 5,000 words at this point.
Speaker B:And it's a whole universe that I've created only because this circle exists.
Speaker B:And I was willing to make the chance and take the chance on it.
Speaker C:Oh my gosh.
Speaker C:And it's brilliant.
Speaker C:Your story is brilliant.
Speaker C:And so it's really cool to see people at the edge of their seats leaning forward when it comes to you and your story or the fiction story that you're writing.
Speaker C:And how empowering does that feel, man, to be able to like, you know, to take something from nothing and then create a story?
Speaker C:You know, I think you went, I lost power to my, my laptop yesterday and like I was away for like 10 minutes and you still were going with your story and everyone was still connected with it.
Speaker C:It's, it's awesome, man.
Speaker C:It is awesome.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it's such a, an amazing space and the people in it are amazing.
Speaker B:And I think this summit is going to be amazing.
Speaker B:Just because.
Speaker B:The power of story and the fact that we want to compile all these stories from so many amazing writers and creators, it's gonna just lead to other amazing things in the future.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:There's some sort of ebullience that happens when you, you take, you start with nothing and then you leave with something that you created.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And then also added to that, like a group of people who are cheering you on.
Speaker C:It's, it's, it's really, really.
Speaker C:For me, it's a privilege to watch those things go down, you know, and I, it's also a privilege that we're going to do that at the book summit.
Speaker C:We're Going to do at least one of those rounds of a story Storyteller Circle, you know, and whoever attends is going to get to experience that.
Speaker C:You know, we can talk about it and talk about it and talk about it, but when you have the emotional connection to your piece, it's just amazing, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think the ultimate vision which we haven't discussed yet, is to take the next round of Story Circle, which will be happening later this month after the summit has passed.
Speaker B:And we are going to compile them all into an anthology based on a topic.
Speaker B:Mark, do you want to talk about the topic and some of what we expect to see through this anthology?
Speaker C:Well, yes, yes.
Speaker C:And so the anthology is coming from the fact that we've all been writing.
Speaker C:But what would this look like if we were to put all the stories together in an anthology?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And so that's kind of a no brainer and it's time to do that.
Speaker C:And in terms of what a lot of people write in the Storyteller's Circle itself is they write a lot of these stories about being in like liminal spaces or transitions or transformations or rebirth.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And sort of how they went from this to this.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And so the anthology of the book is going to honor most of these stories that people are already writing.
Speaker C:Stories about like, you know, going from being a girl to a woman or stories of, you know, like looking for.
Speaker C:To like the.
Speaker C:The boxes that we need to be in life.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:The 3.5 kids and the minivan and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker C:And so sort of how a person would go awry from that and derive their own joy from that, you know what I mean?
Speaker C:Your story, Kevin, which is an ongoing one, the nonfiction of you being in a space where you were transitioning from one home to literally another home, you know, and then sort of your dog being in all those stories as well.
Speaker B:Main character.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:And to think of that like, you know, what if.
Speaker C:What would this look like if this book became a physical book and it's sitting on somebody's like.
Speaker C:Table and they just go and run through it and read a story every now and then, you know.
Speaker C:And so that's now next level of book writing and storytelling circles is that at the end of it, let's put something together and let's see what happens with it, you know.
Speaker C:And so, yes, this time around when the story is done, we're gonna do light edits, you know, and we're going to put them all together.
Speaker C:And I would say that if anyone is thinking about A time in their life where they were transitioning from one thing to another.
Speaker C:The book summit and.
Speaker C:Or this book project that we're working on might be the perfect thing for you to go and check out.
Speaker C:I think one of the examples is one of our newer writers who's absolutely brilliant, Bri, who talks about a lot of transition.
Speaker C:She was in a cult, right.
Speaker C:Growing up.
Speaker C:And so the transition from being there to where she is now and sort of the things that she didn't get to do and the things that are going on inside of her where she was like, I'm out of the cult.
Speaker C:But I still.
Speaker C:I still.
Speaker C:I still want my mother to like me.
Speaker C:I want her to be a mother.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:That's a liminal space, man.
Speaker C:You know?
Speaker C:And I don't know how many people are watching right now who have been in cults.
Speaker C:But to escape something and to start creating your life, that is a liminal space, you know?
Speaker C:And so, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm most looking forward to.
Speaker C:And the fact that it's not a crazy, crazy, crazy.
Speaker C:Book writing session.
Speaker C:It's twice a week for 90 minutes, you know?
Speaker C:And what I like about what's going on with that is that a lot of people call it therapy.
Speaker C:Because it is therapeutic to put pen to paper.
Speaker C:But, yeah, to just sit there with each other for eight weeks, you know, writing and writing and writing and then putting it all together.
Speaker C:Usually when you do a storyteller circle, you're gonna have multiple.
Speaker C:You're gonna have multiple pieces of writing, you know?
Speaker C:And so to take one of those is just, oh, I can't wait to see what it's gonna look like, man.
Speaker C:What are your thoughts on it?
Speaker B:Yeah, I think the beauty of this is usually when we're doing these circles, somebody has written their thing, you hear it, but you don't have the ability to really digest it by reading the words on the page.
Speaker B:And I think that's one of the best ways to really digest information that's more lasting is you have the ability to see it, and you can make notes on the stuff that you see, and you can dissect the way that the person wrote it, the structure that they used, because those things make a difference.
Speaker B:Even though it might be a small difference, it could be a big difference in the way that you actually absorb the information.
Speaker B:So it's going to be amazing to see all of those stories in one place, and they're going to be stories from all over the board.
Speaker B:Like, my story is completely different from Brie's story.
Speaker B:So it's just going to be something for everybody in this anthology.
Speaker B:And I think since we have so many amazing people doing so many amazing things, the stories are just going to be able to help anyone in any transition that they're making in their life.
Speaker C:Oh, completely, Completely.
Speaker C:And I am.
Speaker C:It's not that I'm surprised, but when you get to go and just grip it and rip it knowing that you're not going to get criticized, the quality of writing is just, it's.
Speaker C:It's so good and it's like the.
Speaker C:For me, when I hear their stories, though I was not in a cult, I relate to.
Speaker C:I relate to the stuff Brie's talking about, you know, or there's this person in our group, Jesse, who talks about joining a wrestling team and winning state so that his dad, because he made a pact with his dad to stop smoking if he won state, you know, and so there's these like gut wrenching stories and it's just high quality.
Speaker C:It's an honor to be on that project.
Speaker C: for, you know, a book drop in: Speaker C:And it's, you know.
Speaker C:And then also at the same time, I invite anyone who's watching this who may be like, I'm not a writer or I'm nervous about it that I know, I know, but like, give it a shot, give it a shot.
Speaker C:Come to the book summit because we get to include all of those things in there, you know.
Speaker C:And Kevin, when it comes to the book Summit, what are you most excited about?
Speaker B:I just think that this is going to be the first time that we've taken a look at a whole process of something versus just like a singular aspect.
Speaker B:So there was storytelling, there was creativity.
Speaker B:But what do I do with that thing that we've created or we've worked on or we talked about during these other summits that we've done?
Speaker B:So what can we do with the stuff that we're creating?
Speaker B:And this is really.
Speaker B:We're going to talk about how we're going to do this anthology.
Speaker B:It's going to be crowdfunded.
Speaker B:We're going to do a crowdfunding campaign where we're going to have different options for ebook.
Speaker B:There'll be like the published physical book and then hopefully they'll be enough funded through the different tiers to be able to do a audiobook where we will have the authors of their pieces write it.
Speaker B:Because that's even more powerful than just seeing the words.
Speaker B:If you can do both at the same time.
Speaker B:It's going to be amazing just to see it in every dimension that you can.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it's gonna be absolutely bonkers.
Speaker C:And coming up to this weekend, too, I think it's gonna be bonkers from the standpoint of we're gonna work with someone and their idea or whoever attends and their ideas.
Speaker C:We're going to do the storytelling circles.
Speaker C:There's an element that I teach.
Speaker C:I have a course in storytelling where I'm gonna talk about some of the literary devices that are used to really sharpen up great stories.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:And then just it in a group setting when we're all in it together.
Speaker C:I don't know, man.
Speaker C:Like, there's something about cohorts and coming together to, like, break bread for, like, a couple hours that.
Speaker C:That brings this sort of idea of a book summit in.
Speaker C:It brings it to life, you know, and that's what also.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's also what's been pretty cool is, is some of the connections that I've seen people make in the.
Speaker C:In.
Speaker C:In.
Speaker C:We've never done the books on it before, but in the activities that we're going to be running, like, people light up and they start talking about partnerships.
Speaker C:So, yeah, I'm excited about it.
Speaker C:What are you most excited about?
Speaker B:Man, I love when people get excited about each other.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Like you were saying, it's when you hear this person's story and you're like, oh, my gosh, there are so many amazing people doing amazing work, but they're just not getting the recognition, which is one thing I'm trying to work on in this substack publication is just to get as many creative people the spotlight that they really deserve.
Speaker B:And there's just so much in this world that people can do, and there's divided attention among a million different things.
Speaker B:There's infinite possibilities of stuff you could be doing.
Speaker B:So when you see people come together and really support each other, and in this particular case, we're going to be working on something together as the end result of what we're doing, and I think that's going to just help lift everybody up like a rising tide lifts all.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker C:Yes, it's going to be so fun.
Speaker C:And, yeah, you know, we don't usually go around the room and introduce each other, you know, when we're doing these things like storyteller circles or the summits that are coming.
Speaker C:That is coming out this weekend.
Speaker C:But there's something to be said about creating together where you automatically get closer as a result, you know, people are being vulnerable and telling their stories.
Speaker C:They're putting themselves out there.
Speaker C:And in so many ways, it can be a story of completely different demographics, but the story can land with, you know, with a person, with a person who's completely different because the psychographics are the same, the struggle is the same, the, you know, the.
Speaker C:The questioning of self, the vulnerability of going from one thing to another.
Speaker C:And it's like, Like a.
Speaker C:It's like a hermit crab, right?
Speaker C:You're.
Speaker C:You're here.
Speaker C:But to.
Speaker C:To flourish as a hermit crab, you have to go to a bigger shell.
Speaker C:And, and going to the bigger shell, the hermit crab is completely, completely, completely vulnerable to.
Speaker C:To predators, you know, And I think that's the same thing, you know, with what we do.
Speaker C:What we do is we.
Speaker C:We go and protect the hermit crab while it's vulnerable.
Speaker C:And then at some.
Speaker C:Some point, it tips, you know, kind of like with what you did, you know, like you were writing about your story with you and your wife going to, you know, going to Costa Rica.
Speaker C:I think you realize now, like, in my empty room that I'm moving and I'm using your thing, you know what I mean?
Speaker C:And I just lost my train of thought because someone put a heart up.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, but there is something to be said about it.
Speaker C:And everyone's got a story about when they've moved from being, you know, in a vulnerable space to finding a new home for themselves, you know, So I.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's just so much fun.
Speaker C:So, so, so much fun.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think the more specific the story that you're sharing with the world, the more people actually resonate with it, which is such a crazy thing to think about, because why does that even make sense?
Speaker B:The more specific you are about your own particular experience, the more that people will say, oh, wow, I see myself in your story, even though it has nothing to do with me as a person or my experiences as a person.
Speaker B:But all the things that make for a great story are what universal about, the more specific you are with your details.
Speaker B:So I think that's one of the things that I think we can look forward to in the Book Summit and in the upcoming Writing Circle is just to really flesh out the way that you want to tell your story in the most powerful way, just because it's your story to tell completely.
Speaker C:And then what you're left with when you flesh everything out is a story of being in somebody's inner world, in their inner space.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And that's where people can make those connections.
Speaker C:The psychographics of an experience.
Speaker C:It's like, I guess one of the way we can look at it is.
Speaker C:When you write a really, really good story.
Speaker C:The guts of it, the psychographics of it are the engine.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:But then when you go and do the rest of the stuff, you.
Speaker C:It's just the color of the car that you want to paint.
Speaker C:You know, it's.
Speaker C:The demographics are different.
Speaker C:You know, it's blue here, white here, gray here.
Speaker C:The demographics are different, but at the end of the day, the, the, the engine is still the same engine and it gets you from point A to point B.
Speaker C:And yeah, I, you know, I, I think a lot of people can go on a misconception of, well, if I go and do, you know, a specific story with specific demographics and stuff like that, you know, only people who match those demographics will connect.
Speaker C:And I would say that that's not true.
Speaker C:I mean, it is kind of funky.
Speaker C:The more detail you add, the body sensations that you have, the doubts that you have, you know, in that character.
Speaker C:Everybody has it.
Speaker C:Everybody has it, you know, and if you're watching and you don't have it, you're a freak.
Speaker C:Please tell me how you, you do that.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's all about the.
Speaker B:I think like 99 point whatever percent of us as humans are all the same.
Speaker B:There's such little differences between people that make us different, and that's mostly through lived experience versus the DNA or any biological differences between people.
Speaker B:So I think as human beings, we all have the ability to relate with each other or we should.
Speaker B:If not, obviously that's a different sort of question.
Speaker C:That's what's good.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's completely it, you know, so.
Speaker C:And then there's another thing that to be said for just the creation of something new right there.
Speaker C:There's like this ebullience and joy that you created something, you know, and I think that that comes, that's, you know, that's human nature as well, to go from nothing.
Speaker C:And then when you leave, you have something there, you have something tangible there.
Speaker C:You have a story that you can print on a piece of paper, or you wrote with a pen and paper and you're holding onto it.
Speaker C:There's something about that that is really enticing and is really powerful.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I know you gotta get some more house stuff done in a bit, so can you let people know where they can keep up to date with you just as.
Speaker B:A creative person?
Speaker C:Sure, let's do it.
Speaker C:If you want to keep in touch with me.
Speaker C:It's Mark M A R C Mark M A R C Cordone C O R d o n creative.com so it's Mark Cordone.
Speaker C:No markcordonecreative.com or you can just shoot me a text.
Speaker C:I'm super chill.
Speaker C: -: Speaker C:Just yeah.
Speaker B:Mark is doing so many amazing creative things.
Speaker B:So if you're a creative person and you are interested in storytelling or really getting your good idea out into the world, the Joy Revolution is amazing.
Speaker B:For that as well as for myself, you can find me at Standout Creative Business on Instagram.
Speaker B:You can follow the substack, we'll post a bunch of the links in the notes and the Book Summit will be this Saturday, December 13th, I believe, at 1pm Eastern.
Speaker B:So if you hear this afterwards, I'm sorry, but we've already done the summit.
Speaker B:But we'll have all that information up here for people to check out because it's really going to be an amazing event and we'll probably have a bunch of them in the future.
Speaker B:So if you miss this one, check out the anthology when it comes out or text Mark if it's before time and try to join the writing circle and we will get all that stuff out to you as it comes out.
Speaker C:Thanks, Kevin.
Speaker C:Hi everybody.
Speaker B:Thanks everyone.
Speaker C:Okay, bye.
Speaker A:Thanks for listening.
Speaker A:I'm really excited to host the third summit of the year with Mark, and these summits are always an amazing time.
Speaker A:If you're interested in joining us this Saturday at 1pm Eastern Time, go to thestandoutcreatives.com booksummit to register.
Speaker A:And if you're interested in being part of the Story Circle or the anthology, send me a message on Instagram at Standout Creative Business.
Speaker A:Thanks and I'll see you on the next episode.
